[WSF-Discuss] /Local Social Forum

Judith Blau jrblau at email.unc.edu
Sun Sep 5 15:06:35 UTC 2010


  As I wrote to Ariel, deep forms of democracy needs to start at the 
grassroots. Brazilians, Indians, South Africans and others know that. A 
challenge will be the US - with its entrenched local bureaucracies and 
corporate domination. In America we need to reclaim public spaces. "WE" 
are the poors, minorities, migrants. unhoused, and marginalized. 
Isolation is a problem. The unhoused sleep in the woods and they have 
few social ties. The terrible economy drives wedges between blacks, 
refugees, and migrants. So long as we know the challenges ahead of us, I 
am hopeful. (Our Center is in a migrant - undocumented - community. We 
have a start) Then its on to coalitions and democratic spaces.

Judith

On 9/5/2010 4:23 AM, Ariel Salleh wrote:
> Please add me in here. I really appreciate Judith's initiative in 
> drawing the WSF focus back to the local. This is the real material 
> world where our actions for climate and social justice can have real 
> effects.
> I would think that if we all worked away locally, keeping touch by 
> lists such as this, and scheduling an international meet once in 5 
> years, it would be a kindness to nature and to living democracies.
> Ariel
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> On 05/09/2010, at 6:29 AM, Judith Blau wrote:
>
>> Very nice. I think Dakar is too soon for us, but in a year we will be 
>> ready. I hope to see you all in Dakar (I was earlier at the Nairobi 
>> forum), and I hope to bring back ideas.
>>
>> On 9/4/2010 3:46 PM, Francine Mestrum wrote:
>>> If it is correct to say that people from local social fora 'do not 
>>> go to international events', than maybe the 'expanded' formula is 
>>> particularly interesting for them? I refer to 'Belem expanded' and 
>>> Dakar 'expanded' which is going to happen: video contacts between 
>>> groups in Dakar and groups in some other place. It means not 
>>> everyone has to make the trip but can still participate in the events.
>>> I added Pierre George to the 'cc', since he is the one responsible.
>>> Francine
>>> *From:* Corinna Genschel [mailto:Corinna.Genschel at linksfraktion.de]
>>> *Sent:* vrijdag 3 september 2010 10:32
>>> *To:* Judith Blau; Jai Sen
>>> *Cc:* Jay Gee; Cindy Wiesner; adrienne maree brown; Francine 
>>> Mestrum; Tom Goldtooth; Michael Leon Guerrero; Chico Whitaker; Tammy 
>>> Bang Luu; Post WSFDiscuss; William I Copeland
>>> *Subject:* AW: /Local Social Forum
>>> Dear friends
>>> thanks for this interesting train of thoughts about local social forums.
>>> There used to be within the WSF structure (but also partially within 
>>> the European Social Forum structure) a debate and and exchange 
>>> between local social forums. I remember at least that there were 
>>> meetings (the last I vave been to has beedn Nairobi), were local 
>>> social forums convened, exchanged experiences about their work etc..
>>> I think one of the most important "features" in relation to WSF/ESF 
>>> sites was, that people who work in local social forums usually don't 
>>> go to these international events; that there is not a strong link 
>>> between these two political arenas - because also there is not 
>>> "that" space (at least it seemed that way) to think of locxal social 
>>> forums as relevant to the "international" ones.
>>> I don't remember it very cleary and should check my very old 
>>> messages, but there was an international local social forum mailing 
>>> list with the goal to share our work and network the local forums; 
>>> in Germany we organized also two or three national meetings for 
>>> (German) local social forums.
>>> It was interesting that some local social forums (like the one in 
>>> Berlin, which was active from 2003 until 2008 or so) didn't 
>>> work/function as a scheduled weekend "event", but on a regular basis 
>>> (with monthly open pleanries etc) - which shifted the borders 
>>> between space and agent so to say (among other things). Here is a 
>>> text I wrote about the Berlin Social Forum some years ago, and 
>>> presented in Durban at the CCS in 2007: 
>>> http://www.nu.ac.za/ccs/default.asp?11,61,3,1089: You might find 
>>> some thoughts, experiences, reflections interesting, this is just 
>>> one local social forum example, it does not exist anymore as such 
>>> and as I said, local social forums in my experience work very 
>>> differently from each other. E.g., I remember clearly that "the 
>>> French" local social forums functioned similar to "event fourms" and 
>>> were very successful in that, in building alliances (e.g. in the 
>>> Banlieues), in getting people involved etc.
>>> Thus, to finish here: There used to be so much more local social 
>>> forum stuff happening in "the open", I assume there is a lot of work 
>>> still done, but it found other venues for exchange etc. But as some 
>>> of the answers say, there are local social forums happening, did 
>>> happen etc.
>>> Judith, please let us know about your processes. This is really 
>>> exciting.
>>> All the best from Berlin
>>> Corinna
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *Von:* worldsocialforum-discuss-bounces at openspaceforum.net 
>>> [mailto:worldsocialforum-discuss-bounces at openspaceforum.net] *Im 
>>> Auftrag von *Judith Blau
>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 3. September 2010 08:24
>>> *An:* Jai Sen
>>> *Cc:* Jay Gee; Cindy Wiesner; adrienne maree brown; Francine 
>>> Mestrum; Tom Goldtooth; Michael Leon Guerrero; Chico Whitaker; Tammy 
>>> Bang Luu; Post WSFDiscuss; William I Copeland
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [WSF-Discuss] WorldSocialForum-Discuss Digest, Vol 
>>> 56, Issue 23/Local Social Forum
>>> Greetings, Jai Sen and others,
>>>
>>> And thank you. We are thinking of a small place, where enduring 
>>> relationships will last and last. Even in a small place, there are 
>>> (at least in the capitalist capital of the world) homeless people, 
>>> refugees, gays and lesbians, migrants, people of color and refugees. 
>>> Now they are segregated, isolated, and marginalized. A forum in a 
>>> small place would have, I believe, lasting significance because it 
>>> would bring these groups together, and they would stay together. I 
>>> edited a volume on the WSF and the USSF with Marina Karides, but I 
>>> imagine this to be somewhat different. People - by virtue of 
>>> geography - would form enduring ties and enduring opposition to what 
>>> keeps them now in a condition of servitude, poverty, misery.
>>>
>>> The problem now is that peoples are divided - capitalists keep it 
>>> that way. The unhoused do not have contact with migrants. The 
>>> refugees work two jobs and have no contact with others. And so 
>>> forth. To imagine a local Social Forum anticipates a larger social 
>>> forum. But a local SF can lead to demands for participatory 
>>> democracy, higher taxes for the rich, university accountability, 
>>> universal housing, universal health care, gender equality in wages, 
>>> same sex marriage. I can see this is possible starting at the 
>>> grassroots and in a small place.
>>>
>>> I intend to help mobilize to fundamentally change the conditions 
>>> that oppress people. When we march on town hall, they will have to 
>>> listen, to respond, to act. First comes coalition building.
>>>
>>> Judith
>>>
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>>> Friday, 3 September 2010
>>> Dear Judith, and others, hi
>>>             It is of course great to know about all this local 
>>> social forum activity (and that you are so inspired by all this !), 
>>> so let me add - as you get going on coalition building ! - what I 
>>> have assumed that you already know about (but I see that no one has 
>>> so far mentioned) : That in the US itself, you have had a Chicago 
>>> Social Forum and a Boston Social Forum, at the very least. and 
>>> moreover, that even in the run-up to the first US Social Forum in 
>>> Atlanta in 2007, as far as I recall there were several local-ish and 
>>> regional events or activities that I would think you might like to 
>>> also become familiar with - and especially given the very particular 
>>> dynamics of coalition and social forum building that has now been 
>>> initiated within the US, of intentional inclusion.  And especially 
>>> where those dynamics were based in part on critiques of and 
>>> reflections on the Boston Social Forum, at the minimum.  And I'm 
>>> sure that there were several events on the road from Atlanta to 
>>> Detroit, too.
>>>             I know / am sure that you're of course aware of Jeff 
>>> Juris' first essay on these dynamics at and in the run-up to 
>>> Atlanta, in 2008 ('Spaces of Intentionality : Race, Class, and 
>>> Horizontality in the United States Social Forum', in _Mobilization_, 
>>> Vol 13, no 4, pp 353-371).  In addition, there is the excellent 
>>> recollection of and reflection on the organising process for Atlanta 
>>> by three of the key organisers of that Forum (and also of Detroit, 
>>> as far as I know), also in late 2008 / early 2009 : Michael Leon 
>>> Guerrero, Tammy Bang Luu, and Cindy Wiesner, 2009 - 'The Road to 
>>> Atlanta', in Jai Sen and Peter Waterman, eds, 2009 - _World Social 
>>> Forum : Challenging Empires_, revised and updated second edition, 
>>> Montréal : Black Rose Books, pp 315-331.
>>>             Just FYI !  I'm also copying in all these actors in this 
>>> reply, as well as 3-4 more key organisers at Detroit who I had the 
>>> privilege of meeting there (Will Copeland - of the East Michigan 
>>> Environmental Action Council, and Member, USSF Detroit Local 
>>> Organising Committee; Tom Goldtooth - of IEN / the Indigenous 
>>> Environmental Network; and adrienne maree brown - of the ruckus 
>>> society and national coordinator, us social forum), just in case any 
>>> of them would like to come in with some additional information on 
>>> this question of local fora.
>>>             Jai
>>> Copy : For information, and with the invitation that you come in on 
>>> this exchange ! : Jeff Juris; Michael Leon Guerrero, Tammy Bang Luu, 
>>> and Cindy Wiesner; Will Copeland; Tom Goldtooth; and adrienne maree 
>>> brown
>>> On Sep 3 2010, at 1:17 am, Judith Blau wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Stunning!! I am inspired and motivated, and will now start coalition 
>>> building.
>>>
>>> On 9/2/2010 12:07 PM, david gabriel wrote:
>>> more 40 local social forum in France...
>>>
>>> Last information : 
>>> http://openfsm.net/projects/facili-tation-de-fsl/les-fsl-en-france)
>>>
>>> Solidarity,
>>>
>>> David Gabriel
>>> 2010/8/31 subhash lomte <subhashlomte at gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:subhashlomte at gmail.com>>
>>> Thanks
>>> We are also trying to organise local social forum ,here at 
>>> Aurangabad in India.
>>> Details will be sent to you all.
>>> Regards
>>> Subhash Lomte / national convenor
>>> National campaign committee for Rural Workers
>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Chico Whitaker <chicowf at uol.com.br 
>>> <mailto:chicowf at uol.com.br>> wrote:
>>> Effectively, we are preparing a Local Social Forum in São Paulo, 
>>> Brazil. I will give more details later. Chico Whitaker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 29/08/2010 09:24, Francine Mestrum escreveu:
>>> I thing they are preparing one in Brasil, Sao Paulo. Or was it another city?
>>> Francine
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>>> Has there ever been a local Social Forum? May we have one?
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