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<!--StartFragment--><p class="MsoNormal">Friday, April 10 2015<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt">Worlds in movement, worlds of
movement…</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The 2016 </span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Montréal</span></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> Forum in
movement…</span></b> <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN">An interview with activist Carminda Mac Lorin around the
World Social Forum in Canada :<br>
</span></i><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:24.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">“The traditional North-South distinction
today no longer makes sense”</span></b><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Thanks for posting
this, Jasper !<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Since people like me are
however somewhat disadvantaged since we don't also speak Spanish, I’ve done a
quick and rough translation into English, which I think will make the interview
easier to access.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">After going through the interview,
I have to say that while at one level it's great to see this interview, and to
feel the enthusiasm and excitement, and also good to sense the direction in
which the person being interviewed sees the dynamics and politics of organising
the WSF in Montreal, on unceded Mohawk territory, on the other hand her answers
are, to be honest, unfortunately – and disappointingly - very generalised; for
instance, regarding the composition of the organising group, the ‘Collective’,
and where her answer is not very informative and in fact leaves the reader almost
as blank as before.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Assurances can’t
take the place of facts !<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">But it's perhaps the
responsibility of the person interviewing to have pushed the question further, requesting
more details.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>And I also accept that an interview
isn't perhaps the right place for giving a long list of names, but that’s
certainly possible on a listserve like this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">I’m therefore copying this post
again to the person interviewed, <span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:
EN-US">Carminda Mac Lorin, with the request Carminda, that you please now give
us a list of the members of your organising Collective, and their affiliations,
so that all of who are interested in the WSF, and specifically in the FSM in </span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN-US">Montréal</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">, can
get a concrete sense of who constitutes this group, and of course how this corresponds
to all the debates that have been taking place for so long in and around the WSF about
accountability, representativeness, etc, of ‘official’ bodies in the WSF.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Thanks. And of course in relation to the capacity to organize such a major event.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Or, and as you suggest, you have / the
Collective has another basis for constituting your Collective (other than
representivity, etc), then please also give us that, so that we can
understand.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Thanks !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Similarly, Carminda, while your saying that you
are / the Collective is ‘outraged’ by the difficulties people have for moving
around the world, and that in relation to the very strong likelihood that people (read
‘activists’) from elsewhere will have huge difficulties in getting visas for getting into Canada for
the FSM 2016, you will “mobilize international civil society” are of course good
to hear, on the other hand I feel I have to say that I think we really do need
more concrete and specific analysis and proposals from you as organizers, on
this issue ! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Taking into account the actual impact of
international campaigns on different issues, do you really believe that a Canadian
government and bureaucracy that is bringing in something like Bill C-51 will
pay any attention at all to the appeals of ‘international civil society’ about
giving visas to activists ?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>That this
will be effective ?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Is this all that you
plan to rely on ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Can you therefore please comment more
specifically on this issue here, on this list ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Finally, and especially given that </span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN-US">Montréal</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">, like
Ottawa, is occupied territory [to decode this for those not familiar with this
tension, meaning that white settlers have historically occupied and settled in
this region of what has come to be called Canada, but that it still belongs to
the Indigenous Peoples – in the case of Ottawa, the Algonquins, and in the case
of </span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Montréal, the Mohawks], and given that you say the Indigenous
Peoples are members of your Collective, and given the historical juncture that
Canada is at after the challenges posed by the Idle No More movement and more generally
by the contemporary rise of Indigenous Peoples / First Nations, I am personally
very, very surprised indeed that you have not referred to this conflict and
tension at all in your interview, let alone it being absolutely central to the organising
of the Montréal Forum !<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Can you therefore
please comment on this here ? <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>What is
the position of your Collective on this crucial issue ?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US">And on
any other issues that you feel are important, of course.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Given
what I sense is the importance and sensitivity of these issues in Canada and on
Turtle Island today – and given that the Montréal Forum is arguably going to be
the biggest gathering of people concerned with social issues in the history of Turtle
Island -, I am taking the liberty of copying this post to the Indigenous
Peoples I know on Turtle Island, and more broadly across the world, so that
they too can see and consider your responses, and perhaps also come in here
with further questions, comments, etc.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:
EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Thanks !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>JS<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">PS : To all those copied here who are would like to respond,
can I invite you to consider subscribing to the main list on which I post, WSFDiscuss,
so that your questions, comments etc get automatically posted ?<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">To
subscribe, all you have to do is to simply send an empty email</b> to <a href="mailto:worldsocialforum-discuss-subscribe@openspaceforum.net">worldsocialforum-discuss-subscribe@openspaceforum.net</a><span style="color:black"> !</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt">(<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal">WSFDiscuss </b>is an open and unmoderated forum for the exchange of
information and views on the experience, practice, and theory of social and
political movement at any level (local, national, regional, and global),
including the World Social Forum.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>Started in 2005 as a list around the WSF, it has now – and especially
during 2012-2014 - matured into a discussion around movement more
generically.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>It now </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">has a great list
membership, with people from many parts of the world including activists,
students and researchers, teachers, and others, and importantly, located both
near 'the centre' and towards 'the margins’ of societies as they today are.</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt">)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:red;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">[Google
translation, modified :]</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN">An interview with activist Carminda Mac Lorin around the
World Social Forum in Canada :<br>
</span></i><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><span lang="EN" style="font-size:24.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">The traditional North-South distinction
today no longer makes sense<br>
</span></b><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN"><br>
Sergio Ferrari<br>
Rebelion<br>
<i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">Energize the dialogue between the FSM and
the ‘new movements’. Renew the FSM with new social practices. Add other
cultural and youth languages to the DSM process.<o:p></o:p></i></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN"><br>
The main alterglobalisation meeting will be held in August 2016 for the first
time in the ‘North’, geographically.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>Montreal, Canada, expects to host thousands of participants, invite
about five thousand organizations, and ensure the realization of fifteen
hundred activities. Beyond the quantitative, there are other conceptual
objectives and policies, explains Carminda Mac Lorin, 32, member of the ‘FSM
2016 Montreal Collective’. “It is important to strengthen the role the WSF has
played so far, incorporating the renewal of social protest practices that have
emerged since 2011”, stresses the young social activist. “We urgently need
spaces where we can discuss the new political cultures”, she says.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN"><br>
<b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Q: How did you receive the decision of
the World Social Forum in late March, with the International Council giving
your collective the responsibiity to orgfanise the next edition of the WSF in August
2016 <o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">CML: With surprise and joy. We saw some hesitation on the part of the WSF
International Council. As candidates and protagnosits, we are two years old,
and very active and very motivated. I am very proud to have achieved this
confirmation. And while we received great support from many organizations, we
are aware that entry into Canada is [going to be] a very serious problem. But
we want to take this sruggel head on and ensure that everyone who wants to
participate can do so...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">The WSF is facing
a paradigm shift<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">Q: <b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal">Does holding the WSF in the
geographic North for the first time entails a paradigm shift in the dynamics of
the WSF ?...<o:p></o:p></b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">A: Today, the South-North distinction no more makes sense. There is a
‘North; in the South, and there are also ‘Souths’ in the North. Most fracture
does not preclude countries either side of the eqauotr. But in all societies,
there is an opposition between elites who monopolize wealth and power with the
resst of the people who barely survive. Democracy has given way to a global
oligarchy that imposes its rules everywhere. Everything became much more
apparent after the 2008 crisis, and triggered a wave of protests from 2011 that
has now expanded to every corner of the planet. The Arab Spring, the Spanish
indignados, the Greek protesters, the Occupy movement in New York, Tel Aviv,
Berlin, Rio, Montreal, Istanbul, Sarajevo... The people are mobilized, are
indignant and insurgent both above and below the equator...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Q: A significant
element of your Collective is the youth, but with a solid political analysis
...<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">A: We are all young. Some of body, otehrs of soul. We are between 18 and 65
years, but we all feel young. We have a fresh and renewed energy. In Quebec, activsist
have a very recent history of struggle. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>This incoudes the Occupy movement from the end
of 2011, when many of us were involved, without saying that we have the ownership
rights over that mobilization. We also participated in the Quebec Spring, which
provided a wide platform for political reflection. I feel that these
experiences are deeply embedded and inspired by the dynamics of the FSM and its
principles, which has been with us since 2001, from after its birth in Porto
Alegre.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">"We integrate
all the history and values of the FSM"<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Q: How is this
proximity between Collective and your struggles and the WSF process manifested ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">A: In Quebec in particular, and in Canada in general, there is a long
history of social, local, regional and national forums. Broadly, this incoudes
the Forums of 2007 and 2009 in Quebec, with thousands of participants and a
great capacity for mobilization to organize them. The story is long; from the
beginning are many Canadians who have participated in every edition of the WSF.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Q: Who is taking
part in the Collective for the WSF 2016 in Quebec ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">A: It's a very interesting dynamic. We are very keen to not lose sight of
the perspective of individuals. Although we belong to organizations, we want to
promote a somewhat autonomous process with dynamics that make citizens involved
in the construction of society. The Collective is comprised of people from big organizations
and also young girls; of students; and of members of the First Nations of
Quebec and Canada. It is a plural and diverse group.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Q: Can you evaluate
the process leading to the WSF in Montreal and the ability to integrate that alterglobalsit
dynamics and new groups and ‘occupy’ movements ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
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EN">A: Absolutely. It is one of our goals. We think it is important to create
platforms to ensure an active dialogue with these ‘new social movements’ as
they are called, and institutionalized civil society. These are new platforms
for dialogue, and debate is needed. Another key challenge is to bring togegehr political
cultures with different languages.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Q: Are you saying
that you want to integrate new forms of cultural expression into this global
justice movement ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">A: Yes ! Art is the best metaphor of cultures. But cultures are broader
than art. We also need spaces where they can discuss the new political
cultures. While there are differences in language, we are convinced that we all
strive for the same goals : Promoting the dignity of people; reduce the increasingly
significant social inequalities, etc. We must fight together, inter-generationally,
inter-culturally. And we think the WSF in Montreal will be a great opportunity
to renew with originality this ongoing process. We want to deepen the
achievements of the WSF as an amplifier of struggles and meeting space for
movement. But the next edition should consider renewing social response practices
that emerge since 2011.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Immigration
restrictions : a challenge for organizers<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Q: The restrictive
immigration policy of the current Canadian authorities will be an obstacle for
representatives of Latin America, Asia, or Africa to participate ... How will
you solve this ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:
EN">A: We are outraged by the problems that people have to move freely. It is
absurd that goods move smoothly and people do not. It is a discriminatory
policy and we oppose it. Many tell us that it will be difficult to get visas
for participants ... We are aware that the fight against global system is
difficult, but that does not stop us or demoralize us. The visas : Instead of
considering it an obstacle, we see it as an opportunity to thematise. And we
try to mobilize, and we will call the mobilization of international civil
society on this challenge. We want to move towards a world where borders do not
correspond to current [delimitstions].<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-ansi-language:EN">Q: Where will the
WSF 2016 specifically ? In the center of Montreal itself ?<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><span lang="EN" style="mso-fareast-font-family:
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EN">A: We have developed some ideaa on this in the Collective. We envisage a ‘global
social territory’ of about a mile size, in downtown Montreal, incorporating the
three major universities. We have the neighborhood where the shows are
performed in summer the big festivals and is a space that is ready for
socializing art. We also want to incorporate a neighborhood with gender and
sexual diversity, which will be called ‘the Village’. All this already exists :
This is Montreal ! The idea is to get there. We would like to incorporate a
youth camp on an island or in a native territory. And we intend to extend the
Forum in many local and regional forums. We imagine that the opening march
could end in a suburb to avoid the criticism that we always mobilized in the
inner city...<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.0pt"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:
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thoughts ?...<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">
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what are called ‘new movements’. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>And I
am convinced that concepts such as mainstreaming, horizontality, and pluralism
are essential in critiquing the system. Sometimes it is not easy to articulate
this criticism globally because the system is very large. <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>For isntsnce, ecology, human rights, and
gender issues. Such huge problems ! But we are convinced that it is essential
to open spaces for the convergence of all these struggles ... And that's one of
the great challenges of this process of construction, preparation and realization
of FSM 2016 project involving a total of four years. We began to dream it in
March 2013. We are already halfway there. It lies ahead of us; our goal is to
continue marching...<br>
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Le Courrier and with E-CHANGER / Comundo<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">In Spanish, Carminda (FSM Montreal
Collective) interviewed by Sergio Ferrari:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=197462">http://www.rebelion.org/noticia.php?id=197462</a><br>
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<br>
Jai Sen schreef op 6-4-2015 om 9:45:<br>
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<!--StartFragment--><p class="MsoNormal">PS : My sincere apologies, in my post as
below I overlooked responding also to
the post by Jay Nair (also of Canada), where he makes a very
important point
that is directly relevant to he question we’re talking about :
The tabling any
day now of a draconian ‘Security Bill’ by the current
government in Canada. Thanks for making this point, Jay. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">I’m pasting in
his post below, so
that it’s also available to Raphaël Canet and <span lang="EN-US">Carminda Mac Lorin</span>, and while I'm doing
this, (a) Brian (Murphy), can I request you to please also
come in on this exchange
with any observations and information you have ?, and (b), to
make things more concrete,
here are some things that readers who still imagine Canada as
it once used to
be – a friendly, open, warm country – might like to take a
look at :<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">‘Bill C-51: Anti-Terrorism Act, 2015’, @ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://voices-voix.ca/en/facts/profile/bill-c-51-anti-terrorism-act-2015">http://voices-voix.ca/en/facts/profile/bill-c-51-anti-terrorism-act-2015</a>
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">‘Bill C-51: 8 things activists and
dissenters in Canada need
to know’, @ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.canadianprogressiveworld.com/2015/03/19/bill-c-51-8-things-activists-and-dissenters-in-canada-need-to-know/">http://www.canadianprogressiveworld.com/2015/03/19/bill-c-51-8-things-activists-and-dissenters-in-canada-need-to-know/</a>
<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal">‘Bill C-51 Backgrounder #2: The Canadian
Security
Intelligence Service's Proposed Power to 'Reduce' Security
Threats Through
Conduct that May Violate the Law and Charter’, @ <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2564272">http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2564272</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> JS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>On Apr 5 2015, at 11:05 PM, Jay Nair <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jinair@me.com">jinair@me.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>Comrades</div>
<div>We in Canada are going to get the new Bill C-51
Security Bill thrust down our throats soon. Be has to
consider this Act, if the current Conservatives win the
next election. Then we will be living in a police state </div>
<div>Just take note. </div>
<div>Jay<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<div>On Apr 6 2015, at 12:35 PM, Jai Sen <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jai.sen@cacim.net">jai.sen@cacim.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<!--StartFragment--><p class="MsoNormal">Monday, April 6 2015<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
</p><p class="MsoNormal">Greetings !<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">Since this –
creating a parallel
open space complementary to official bodies where people
outside those bodies could
critically discuss the WSF – was the very reason why the
WSFDiscuss list was
created in the first place, back in 2005, as list admin
and one of the founding
group I'm of course pleased to see this discussion on the
2016 WSF taking place
on WSFDiscuss, and in particular to have these critical
reflections on what
‘Canada’ is actually like these days, and these serious
suggestions for ‘what
is to be done’ to get around the very likely roadblocks to
activists (and
especially the seriously militant, and from the North as
well as the South) getting
in to the country. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">I think it
would be good though,
and since the Forum is coming up just next year, if we
could also hear from the
organisers what their thoughts are on all this – and even
if Patrick, you have already
vouched for them ! I’m therefore copying
in here two of the main organisers, Raphaël Canet and <span lang="EN-US">Carminda Mac Lorin</span>, and would like
to
invite both of you to please come in on this discussion
and tell us how you in the
Organising Committee for FSM 2016 are addressing the
issues that have been
raised here – and also, in particular, what your analysis
is with regard to the
intolerant climate that has emerged in Canada in this
general area, and how you
are proposing to address the possible outcomes of this.
(Please have a look at the thread of posts
that have come in on this, as below, including from
Canadians.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">(I’ve
already earlier on invited
you both to consider subscribing to WSFDiscuss – which
would make your posting
here much easier and where you would yourself then
automatically receive all
the posts, and I warmly invite you to do so here again. <b>To
subscribe,
all you have to do is to simply send an empty email</b>
to <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:worldsocialforum-discuss-subscribe@openspaceforum.net">worldsocialforum-discuss-subscribe@openspaceforum.net</a>.)<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">To
this, let me add my own two bits. First,
and since I am now in Canada for quite a lot of the year,
let me say that I
agree completely with what those who have posted here have
said, from Patrick
Bond’s opening question and expression of concern – and
thanks for this,
Patrick – to the observations from Bill Carroll and
Michael Gurstein. My sense is that blocking and screening
is a
very serious possibility, and as Michael has said, this is
likely to be so even
if the present government is voted out in the elections
later this year, simply
because the systems have got seriously set in place.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">Two,
and while Peter, while it's of course ‘nice’ that you felt
you could respond to
Patrick’s question ‘without even consulting Gina’ [Vargas,
who for those who
don't know this, is not only Peter Waterman’s partner but
also one of the most
senior and most respected members of the WSF’s
International Council], and give
us your / her assurance that the question ‘has of course
been addressed’, to be
very frank I along with others have raised this and other
questions several
times over the past some years, with the organisers and
with members of the International
Council, and I anyway have never got, heard, or seen
really substantive,
comprehensive answers. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">(Other
questions have included : Just what are the reasons that
the International
Council has had for deciding (a) that the 2016 Forum
should be held in the
North, for the first time in the WSF’s history – and
contradicting and
overturning a political-strategic decision made early on
?; and (b) to hold it
in Montréal ? And : Just what
is the list of all the members of the Organising Committee
of the Montréal Forum – not just of its core group –, and
why and how is
the IC so confident that this group can handle such a
major event ?) <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">In the
way that things in the WSF are handled, it’s always been a
warm and friendly assurance
something along the lines of ‘Don't you worry, of course
we’re handling this
!’. (And in relation to the Committee,
the only ‘reason’ I've been given for being confident is
that ‘It’s full of
young people !’. This is certainly a great
feature – but seriously, is this enough ?)
To now be very frank about this, for me this attitude and
kind of
response has all along been a puzzling, frustrating, and
disappointing aspect
of seeing the Montréal Forum being organised. To me it
just seems not serious enough, quite
aside from not respecting those who are asking questions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">To be
blunt, and with the warmest respect and affection for Gina
and some other members
of the IC, and also with friendly respect for Raphael and
Carminda who I know a
little, as I’m sure all of you would otherwise agree,
organising something like
a Forum has to be deadly serious as well as being fun and
communitarian, and we
all need – here and elsewhere – to get past talking about
these issues on a
casual level, subconsciously muffled by friendship and
comradeship. We need to be able to talk about the
question
that has come up on this list – and all the other related
issues - in simple,
substantive, and objective terms. <o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:36.0pt">Now
that this question has arisen again, I do hope we can do
that here, and
seriously and substantively. Let’s see.<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b> </b>JS<o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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<div>On Apr 5 2015, at 10:46 PM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:utopie@ips.org">utopie@ips.org</a>
wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><font face="arial" size="2"><p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: arial;
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family:
arial; font-size: 10pt; word-wrap: break-word;">I am
aware of that, but it should be for an innocuous
conference, not gay or sensitive issues, like
space...and the canadian organizing committee can
take the responsibility to vouch the legal and
financial responsibilities.-..but again, canada is a
more serious country than Italy...but to ask for
visas for a world social forum it looks to me as a
very difficult proposition...certainly the canadian
organizing committeee can set up something od hoc to
get a proforma invitation...if we want to chan ge
the world, we must take some license from the
official straightjacket....roberto</div><p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: arial;
font-size: 10pt; word-wrap: break-word;"> </p><p style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: arial;
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family:
arial; font-size: 10pt; word-wrap: break-word;">-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: "Michael Gurstein" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>><br>
Sent: Sunday, 5 April, 2015 1:02pm<br>
To: "'Discussion list about the WSF'" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:worldsocialforum-discuss@openspaceforum.net">worldsocialforum-discuss@openspaceforum.net</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSF-Discuss] Fw: Montreal Will Play
Host To the World Social Forum in August 2016<br>
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Canada for that approach to be meaningful (at
the borders/consulates etc.) it would require
a degree of formalization that would very
likely involve legal/financial implications
(risks) for the “sponsoring” (inviting)
agency, unfortunately. (In the past it has
worked occasionally worked (and not worked)
but on an individual basis.)</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: arial;
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break-word;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
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random assortment of recent horror stories
from Google…</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: arial;
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break-word;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt;
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<div>On Apr 5 2015, at 10:26 PM, Örsan Şenalp <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">good thing is canadian and
montrealean syudents are setting the scene<br>
for bringing the struggle against capitalsim in the
middle of the<br>
wsf.. a video from PutinTv:<br>
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Canadian cops fire tear gas at student protesters’
faces (VIDEO):<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://rt.com/news/244505-canada-police-brutality-students/">http://rt.com/news/244505-canada-police-brutality-students/</a><br>
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<div>On Apr 5 2015, at 10:23 PM, peter waterman <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:peterwaterman1936@gmail.com">peterwaterman1936@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size: small;">Nice
one, Utopie!<br>
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<div>On Apr 5 2015, at 10:17 PM, Michael Gurstein <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">IMHO,
the pressure points in Canada are more likely
to be found in the Quebec or Montreal
governments than in Ottawa which, even if the
government does change (hopefully) this year
it will require a long time and very
considerable efforts to unwind the changes
(including appointments) that Harper and his
gang have managed to achieve.<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The
government of Quebec is probably more
responsive (for economic rather than
ideological reasons) and the government of
Montreal even more so as they are trying to
present themselves as a major global
conference host for economic reasons. Both of
these would likely have some influence in
these areas.<o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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'Calibri',sans-serif;" lang="EN-US">
WorldSocialForum-Discuss [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:worldsocialforum-discuss-bounces@openspaceforum.net">mailto:worldsocialforum-discuss-bounces@openspaceforum.net</a>]
<strong>On Behalf Of </strong><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:utopie@ips.org">utopie@ips.org</a><br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> April 5, 2015 9:44 AM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> Discussion list about the
WSF<br>
<strong>Cc:</strong> Debate is a listserve
that attempts to promote information and
analyses of interest to the independent left
in South and Southern Africa; Discussion list
about the WSF<br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [WSF-Discuss]
Fw: Montreal Will Play Host To the World
Social Forum in August 2016</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family: arial;
font-size: 10pt; word-wrap: break-word;"> </p><p style="margin:0;padding:0;margin: 0cm;
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<div style="padding: 0px; margin: 0cm 0cm
0.0001pt; word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">The best way to get
around this is to identify an academic body or
a pubolic entity ( like a local council), who
is willing to send letters of invitation to an
event in the same dates of the wsf. It would
be very difficult for any american or canadian
consulate to refuse a visa, if there is a
public entity sponsoring the invitation, and
stating that it will take care of the invited
. This means you have to find somewhere in
canada a legitimate public entity accepting to
emit such invitations only pro forma, to
facilitate visas. At home, I knows at least a
dozens of towns and more univerisities willing
to do so. But may be canada is a more serious
country...robertop</span></div><p style="margin:0;padding:0;margin: 0cm;
margin-bottom: .0001pt; word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;"> </span></p><p style="margin:0;padding:0;margin: 0cm;
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'Arial',sans-serif;">-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: "William Carroll" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wcarroll@uvic.ca">wcarroll@uvic.ca</a>><br>
Sent: Sunday, 5 April, 2015 12:30pm<br>
To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:peterwaterman1936@gmail.com">peterwaterman1936@gmail.com</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:peterwaterman1936@gmail.com">peterwaterman1936@gmail.com</a>>,
"Discussion list about the WSF" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:worldsocialforum-discuss@openspaceforum.net">worldsocialforum-discuss@openspaceforum.net</a>>,
"Debate is a listserve that attempts to
promote information and analyses of interest
to the independent left in South and Southern
Africa" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:debate-list@fahamu.org">debate-list@fahamu.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [WSF-Discuss] Fw: Montreal Will
Play Host To the World Social Forum in August
2016</span></p>
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word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">From
the belly of the beast (and Canada’s Harper
regime IS beastly – probably second to
Israel among the reactionary governments of
the capitalist democracies) I can confirm
that this is a real worry. However, there
is a federal election this October, and it
is quite possible that Stephen Harper &
co. will be dismissed. Any incoming
government would be rather different, I
think, in its approach to global civil
society, WSF etc. , shifting from George W
Bush-style neoconservatism to something
closer to Lester Pearson’s liberal
internationalism. </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">So, I
would recommend keeping an eye on this issue
and , should the Harper regime remain in
power in 2016, prepare for the worst, along
the lines Peter has articulated</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">Bill
Carroll </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family:
'Calibri',sans-serif; color: #1f497d;">University
of Victoria</span></div>
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<strong><span style="font-family:
'Tahoma',sans-serif;">On Behalf Of </span></strong>peter
waterman<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:
'Tahoma',sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong>
April-05-15 9:20 AM<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:
'Tahoma',sans-serif;">To:</span></strong>
Discussion list about the WSF; Debate is a
listserve that attempts to promote
information and analyses of interest to the
independent left in South and Southern
Africa<br>
<strong><span style="font-family:
'Tahoma',sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong>
Re: [WSF-Discuss] Fw: Montreal Will Play
Host To the World Social Forum in August
2016</span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;word-wrap:
break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;">Patrick:</p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;">Without even asking Gina, who is
sitting diagonally from me, one meter
away, on her own computadora, I can assure
you that this question was addressed!</p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;">That does not, however, mean that
we can avoid organising a multi-pronged
campaign, at all relevant levels, to
ensure that the borders are open for WSF
participants. I would, however, assume
that however forceful such a campaign and
whatever gestures the Canadian state might
make, that there will be
people/countries/organisations excluded.
In such cases, there would need to be
'name and shame' demonstrations at
Canadian embassies, consulates - and even
companies - around the world. And maybe
one should warn the Canadians that this
will be the case if they refuse visas to a
global civil society event.</p>
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blue;">For the
Global
Emancipation
of Labour </span></span></a></span></li>
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background:
white;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://interfacejournal.nuim.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Interface-1-2-pp255-262-Waterman.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">2005-?</span></a></span><span style="font-size:
7.5pt; color:
red;
background:
white;" lang="NL">
Ongoing. </span><span style="font-size:
7.5pt;
background:
white;" lang="NL">Blog:
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.unionbook.org/profile/peterwaterman." target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color:
blue;">http://www.unionbook.org/profile/peterwaterman.</span></span></a></span><span style="font-size:
7.5pt; color:
red;
background:
white;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://interfacejournal.nuim.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Interface-1-2-pp255-262-Waterman.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">???. </span><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="">Needed:
a Global
Labour Charter
Movement </span></span><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color:
blue;">(2005-Now!)</span></span></a></span></li>
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initial
initial;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/under-against-beyond/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color:
red;">2011. </span></span><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color:
blue;">Under,
Against,
Beyond: Labour
and Social
Movements
Confront a
Globalised,
Informatised
Capitalism </span></span></a>(2011)
</span><span style="font-size:
7.5pt; color:
blue;
background:
white;">(c.
1,000 pages of
Working
Papers, free,
from the
1980's-90's).</span></li>
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word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">On Sun, Apr 5, 2015
at 10:10 AM, Patrick Bond <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pbond@mail.ngo.za" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: blue;">pbond@mail.ngo.za</span></span></a>>
wrote:</span></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;">Full support, I know some of
the organisers as extremely capable
comrades. <br>
<br>
But as I recall, the many discussions
about Montreal hosting in the prior
years focused on the border problem:
hostility to people from the South when
it comes to visas, and also to North
American activists who have been
prevented from crossing due to their
activist record. The Ottawa regime has a
fortress mentality. Has that been
addressed? <br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Patrick</p>
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word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">On
2015/04/05 04:08 PM, jasper
teunissen wrote:</span></div>
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<blockquote style="margin-top: 5.0pt;
margin-bottom: 5.0pt;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0;padding:0;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;">Don't think this was posted
already on this list:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.fsm2016.org/en/montreal-will-play-host-to-the-world-social-forum-in-august-2016-2/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color:
blue;">http://www.fsm2016.org/en/montreal-will-play-host-to-the-world-social-forum-in-august-2016-2/</span></span></a></p>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><strong><span style="font-size: 24.0pt;">Montreal
Will Play Host To the World Social
Forum in August 2016</span></strong></div>
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font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="Permalink to Montreal
Will Play Host To the World
Social Forum in August 2016" href="http://www.fsm2016.org/en/montreal-will-play-host-to-the-world-social-forum-in-august-2016-2/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color: blue;">30
March 2015</span></span></a><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.fsm2016.org/en/category/non-classe-en/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color: blue;">Non
classé @en</span></span></a><a moz-do-not-send="true" title="View all posts by Van
Quoc Vinh" href="http://www.fsm2016.org/en/author/vanqv/" target="_blank"><span style="text-decoration:
underline;"><span style="color: blue;">Van
Quoc Vinh</span></span></a></span></div>
</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">Montreal
Will Play Host To the World
Social Forum in August 2016.</span></strong><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;"><br>
<strong><span style="font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">Unprecedented
in a Northern Country!</span></strong></span></strong></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">Tunis,
March 29th 2015:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;"><br>
Today, March 29th 2015, it was
decided that Montreal would be
hosting the next World Social
Forum taking place in August 2016.
Following a meeting that took
place during the 2015 World Social
Forum (WSF) in Tunis, the
International Council officially
confirmed that the next global
civil society meeting for an
alternative world would be held in
Montreal. According to Chico
Whitaker, a founding member of the
WSFs, “this first Northern World
Social Forum is a historical
opportunity for us to revitalize
global social struggles; and all
of this will be carried out by the
passion and idealism of Quebec’s
youth!”</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">More
than 50,000 people are expected to
convene in downtown Montreal next
year for this exciting event. The
WSF hopes to become a space for
the collective construction of
solutions to the various
challenges we currently face
(ecological, economic, security,
social and political crises).
Quebec’s youth and its new social
movements were able to convince
the International Council to sign
off on the WSF being hosted in a
Northern country for the first
time since its inception in 2001.
This surprising twist of events
epitomizes the importance of
alliances between peoples and
nations in creating a better world
for today and tomorrow.</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">It
is with this in mind that the 12th
edition of the WSF aims to
facilitate Canada and Quebec’s
civil society’s contribution to
global social struggles.</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">About the
2016 Montreal WSF Collective</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;"><br>
Starting in May 2013, a collective
made up of socially-involved
citizens, as well as more than 140
organizations from syndical,
indigenous, feminist,
international solidarity,
community, student and
environmental arenas have worked
together in order to build a
strong organizational base for the
2016 World Social Forum in
Montreal.</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family:
'Arial',sans-serif;">About World
Social Forums</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;"><br>
World Social Forums aim to create
a space for the emergence of
alternatives and debates, as well
as for the convergence of
struggles across the world. The
first World Social Forum was held
in Porto-Alegre, Brazil, in 2001
in reaction to the annual World
Economic Forum in Davos,
Switzerland.</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Raphaël
Canet<br>
Tunis : +216 55 25 55 16 (March
29, 30, 31<br>
Montreal : 514 883-9594</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;
word-wrap: break-word;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt;
font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif;">Carminda
Mac Lorin :<br>
Tunis : +216 55 255 516 (March 29,
30, 31)<br>
Montreal : 514 381-7090</span></div>
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